I know, tacky-tacky-tacky. I need a beer bottle to represent Canada. The U.S. flag looks pretty good though
Baran-Harper (Canada), eh
Markham, Ontario
Voice: 905.294.6473
DICON SMOKE DETECTOR CROSS REFERENCE
Welcome to the Smoke Detector cross reference page. I will assume you have made it to this page because you entered the word DICON into GOOGLE. The reason you did that is because your 15 year old smokes are beeping. This beeping sound probably started around 3 a.m. and will just not stop
Relax, it's OK now
In a nutshell, if you see the word DICON on your smoke, its more than 15 years old, had a 10 year warranty, it's pooched, and they ALL SHOULD be replaced. I have those replacement units. I carry Dicon replacement units that use the old
DICON mounting bracket on your ceiling, snap in snap out, you must replace them all otherwise they will not work. The Smokes I have are made by a
Company called American Sensors, they are approved for sale in the U.S. As of October 2007 I am the only company in North America that has these snap in
smokes, only 1100 left( Nov 2011 ) and going (American Sensors was bought out by another company who discontinued them), so if you want to replace your smokes
and fed up of reading, this is what you want:
battery backup version
and to order them,
here
MARCH 2012 SPECIAL: SA379UL (U.S. Certified Smokes) are 20$C each with free freight on a box of 6, save 25$ in freight
I have been getting numerous phone calls regarding a web based smoke detector store in the U.S. that appears not to be shipping product. I can't mention their name. I ship product, no nonsense here, you want smokes, I have them, I have children to send to university !! Most smoke orders are shipped the same day, serious. I'm Canadian, you can trust me.
FREE SHIPPING on orders of 6 smokes or more....talk to your neighbours
Scroll down to the cross reference chart, or read away
Dicon Smokes, the ones making the noise, have a 10 year warranty, but thats long gone expired. Dicon went out of business 15 years ago, they no longer exist. I sell replacement DICON Smoke Detectors, made by a company called DiconGlobal, go figure that one. Some can be intermixed with existing Dicon units, others not, generally, replace them all, the mountings are the same as the current DICONS you have, so generally you snap out the old ones and snap in the new ones. Bingo ! Bida-Bang-Bida-Bing
You cannot rebuild these units, you cannot go to Home Depot and find a substitute, I do not know where you can purchase these units locally. If you drop in another companies product, they will all beep, just like they are right now
If you live in Canada, I ship you Canadian approved units(ULC). In the U.S., I ship you U.S. approved units(UL). The difference is that they have a different sound, and your Fire Department is happy. For freight charges click here. It takes 2-8 business days to reach you. I'm in Toronto, North of Buffalo. If your address is off the beaten track, 6-8 business days You can order directly from us using our easy Quick Order screen. If you are not sure who we are, link out to our Main Page
If you are replacing the DICON smokes in YOUR house, then the odds are on that your neighbour has the same smokes, in the same place, and they are probably about to die. See if he needs any, heck, sell him some, Your freight comes down, Your neighbour is happy, I can add weiners to my KD tonight, buy my kids shoes, it works well EVERYBODY WINS !!
Free Freight if you live in PICKERINGTON OHIO, OMAHA NEBRASKA, PRESCOTT ARIZONA*
*Free on quantities of 6 or more, which means you, if you live in Pickerington, Omaha Nebraska or Prescott AZ
Ok, I give up. IF the word "Springfield" is your address, a box of 6, but only 6: Free Freight. Every state should be happy now. My kids watch the Simpsons' I know these things. Excellent Smithers, excellent.
It appears that legislation in some areas of Canada/U.S. now require 9v batteries in the 120VAC powered smokes.
Odds are you have a DICON 370LBX, 330L, One with and without battery backup. Replace with SA379 and SA360. Upgrade to the SA379 with the battery, can't lose.
Smoke detectors should be connected to a primary electrical circuit, which means that the smokes are on the same breaker as a major/primary/attention getting circuit, such that if the breaker blows and you lose that function, you will fix the problem quickly and bring the Smoke, Carbon Monoxide detectors back online. Are you with me ? They should not be on an independent breaker/fuse/circuit.
Make sure you know how many you need. If A new smoke when installed goes off, remove all the old smokes first, from obscure places: the attic. Heck, one customer had one boarded into his wall. Perhaps a renovation trick. You may laugh, 'cause I did but, He is not alone.
Condo Corporations: Send a FAX or Email us for you requirements, we have volume pricing on 100+ piece orders, immediate delivery, well almost immediate
The smokes connector harness will be either 3 wires or 6 wires. The extra wires are connected to a relay inside the smoke, FORM 'C'. If you have a 3 wire unit it does not matter. A 3 wire harness connected into a 6 wire smoke would imply the relay on the smoke is not being used, therefore a 6 wire to 6 wire imples a relay is in use, This relay may control a valve, a siren, something, investigate.
......From my experience: Count 5, order 6, a box of them
Two types of Smoke Alarm Technology
Ionization: Smoke alarms respond earlier to fast flaming fires. A flaming fire devours combustibles extremely fast, spreads rapidly and generates considerable heat with little smoke. Ionization models are best suited for rooms which contain highly combustible materials. These types of materials include: cooking fat/grease flammable liquids newspapers paint cleaning solutions.
Photoelectronic: Smoke alarms respond earlier to slow smouldering fires. A smouldering fire generates large amounts of thick smoke with little heat and may smoulder for hours before bursting into flames Photoelectric models are best suited for living rooms, bedrooms and kitchens. This is because these rooms often contain large pieces of furniture, such as sofas, chairs, mattresses, counter tops, etc. which will burn slowly and create more smoldering smoke than flames. Photoelectric smoke alarms are also less prone to nuisance alarms in the kitchen area than ionization smoke alarms
Did you know, that depending on where you live, there is either a mandated law, a by-law, law, in-law, building code law, provincial. state, or regional law that you are to have a Carbon Monoxide Detector on each floor, or outside each bedroom door ? Just like smoke detectors. Up until 2006, Carbon Monoxide units were really expensive, and consumed a lot of power, but capitalism and free enterprise has prevailed again, and they changed the technology, so they work on a 9 volt battery for more than 10 minutes. They also come as plug-ins to the wall, with battery backup, and some of them can be connected to your alarm panel. And they dropped the price, big time, as in half. So now you know, you have been told, it's your life, think of the children, I know a low-blow, but it probably is the law where you are sitting, and laws are good for us, unless of course you want to get a Darwin Award this year
There is another solution: Put in a Dual Smoke Monoxide Detector, the COS2010.
It's also cUL listed, which means it's been tested by UL to comply with the UL2034 standard and the Canadian CSA 6.19.
The unitis a 4 wire setup, and you
may only have 3. If you have a 4 wire harness, such as the ESA5011 then this solution is a go, or just string a 4 wire cable
COS2010 Pricing
Installation PDF
COS2010 Wiring Manual
Click for a complete listing of Smoke Detectors and Carbon Monoxide Detectors
Click for DICON Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Manuals(PDFS)
For situations where a device such as a sprinkler is triggered by a smoke then you need to read this manual and get this gizzy, the CB570 Actually this little unit allows you to integrate many different types of sensors. Use your alarm panel, plus a relay, to flip them. What a perfect little automation device. The things people make. Here is an interesting application, a A smoke detector, Pull Station, and the gizzy Combo. The alarm goes of when smoke is detected OR the pull station is tripped. In some jurisdictions this combo is required on apartments/rentals of a certain size, but you could put one in your garage
Click: SA771 DICON/American Sensor SPRECIAL Just for you Canadians I have found a real DICON sub treat. Through the power of shrewd power buying I have found a limited supply of NEW SA771 DUAL photo AND ionization smokes on a 3 wire harness. These are rare and hard to find, But I have a few. Now you can have the best of both worlds List Price 44$C, Special 40$ thats 10% OFF ! |
9 Volt Battery Sale Replace the Batts in your Smoke Detectors 10 Pack: $1C/.77C US EACH or blow the budget, great Easter gifts 20 Pack: $0.75C/0.50C US EACH |
Click: SA379UL DICON SMOKE DETECTOR SALE U.S. Certified SA379UL Model 120VAC 55ma, battery backup (batt included) 24 Pack 17$US EACH 48 Pack 15$US EACH 72 Pack 13$US EACH Great deal for Condo Associations, Wholesalers, or people that want to have lots of spares, they have a shelf life of 100 years ! 10 year warranty |
If you have a question, I would prefer E-Mail But if you want to talk with me/hear my voice, my name is Doug Harper, chief cook and bottle washer. My cell phone is 905-294-6473 9-5ish, Monday to Friday, The smoke detectors are pronounced Die-Con, not Dee-Con. I know picky picky picky, one of those em-pha-sis things
Below is a chart showing different model numbers. The chart reads left to right, smokes detectors with similar properties. Odds are you will require the SA379. All items are in stock, shipped the same day you order them, unless you order on a Saturday or Sunday, and maybe a Monday, I do my best
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NEW from AMERICAN SENSORS Natural Gas and Propane Gas Detection Plug in the Wall or hard wired 45$C Special Price, Limited Time NG200 - Natural Gas 120V Plug-in NG400 - Natural Gas 120V Wire-in LP200 - Liquid Propane 120v plug-in LP400 - Liquid Propane 120v wire in NG200 - LP200 |
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SA360UL U.S SA360 PDF |
470L (Photo) 670L (570L) Disc. (330L) Disc. (330LSG) NLA Grainger #1H731 |
Same mounting bracket as old Must treplace all with new Ionization | |
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4760LR PDF |
670LBX PDF 670L |
ESA5011 Price ESA5011 PDF |
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SA379UL (U.S. Version) Price SA379 Overview SA379 Specifications SA379 Install 670LBX U.S. Version These are all ionization |
370LBX Grainger #3T923 |
670LBX U.S. Version 470LBX (Canada) Price 470LBXUS (U.S.) Price 470LBX Spec Sheets These are PhotoElectrics |
Hardware with battery back-up, Inter-connectable, with relay Ionization or PhotoElectric, mix and match Direct sub, connect up to 18 together |
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Sprinklers Alarms Valves |
The difference between a SA360 and an SA379 is the battery backup with the SA379. The battery is a 9v battery which is included with the unit. This means that the battery backup unit will still work when the AC power is off. What this means is that if a device on the same circuit blows, the smokes will still work.
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Smoke Detector Installation tips
Got to put this information someplace. Once upon a time, you had a working smoke detection system, then one day at 3 am they go off, or start chirping. Your husband disconnects them, you google, keywords dicon smoke detector. I ship you 6 replacements, you plug them in and they chirp or just go off
Remove all old smokes, so the wiring harness is clear
Install new ones, white, black, orange/yellow
they work
If they beep, power down, wait a minute, power up
They work
On the other hand, if they alarm, you either have a fire in progress and take corrective action or you have not removed ALL of the old smokes
They Lurk in the attic, basement, some room you forgot about, or my personal favourite is hidden in the wall, from the last renovation
Remove all old smokes
They work
Next one, little fuzzy on this. The battery unit may chirp with the 120Vac off. It does and does not make sense. It should not chirp under AC power. If it does then either the battery is dead, Statistically you could have a dead battery from me, but that would be rare, or the contacts between the battery and smoke are bad. Inspect the battery terminals in the battery area for residual glue, left over from the production process, honest, and scrape it off, basically a bad battery connect. This problem is rare, but is a known feature of S360, SA379 units
Putting them on high power AC circuits, such as fridges, furnace, freezers or other voltage surge type products can trigger the alarm, this is possible, but not personally had this situation, yet
will keep you informed
If none of the above resolve your problems, call me during business hours 905-294-6473 or send
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